Roger Gracie and Braulio Estima were the call-in guests for the 36th episode of the WNO Podcast on Tuesday. The ADCC and IBJJF world champs had a lot of interesting things to say about their careers and the current state of jiu-jitsu; here are some of the highlights:

Watch: WNO 36 With Roger Gracie And Braulio Estima Full Episode

Roger Might Have Given The Show Its Best Breakdown Yet When He Discussed His Buchecha Match At Gracie Pro

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Roger Went Into Detail About His Gruesome Armlock vs Jacare

Roger and Braulio both discussed the 2004 IBJJF Worlds open class final, with Roger feeling Jacare should have been disqualified for stalling after the arm break.

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Roger Then Described His Flawless ADCC Performance

Hear how he knew he could not let it go to the refs again after the Jacare match, at his ADCC double gold run with all eight matches ending in submission.

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Braulio Won Double Gold At ADCC Too, Tapping Some Hall Of Famers On The Way

In 2009 Braulio submitted Marcelo Garcia, Andre Galvao, and Rafael Lovato en route to ADCC weight and absolute gold.

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Finally, The ADCC Absolute Champs Picked Their Winner In The 2021 Superfight

Hear who they think will win between Gordon Ryan and Andre Galvao.

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